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Introduction of Initial response States
This is what I call at this point in time the initial response state. I want to try to begin by defining what I mean by the initial response state because this is the rock fundamental concept of making any kind of use of the descriptive system in this.
It's my contention that individuals come into life essentially with organization, a perceptual organization on the basis of which there is a capacity to respond in certain kinds of ways. Now the ways that people can respond are more alike than they are different. That is, people are very much alike, but there are some very definite fundamental differences and it is these fundamental and very subtle differences that begin to be the key in terms of interpretive of the PAS.
That by the initial response state is the concept that the individual in his conceptual organization is more likely to respond to certain things that he is to others. Now remember I'm not saying the cannot respond to anything but he does have dominant tendency to respond.
Therefore, the process in my day they used to call that the adaptation or maturation, the adaptation or maturation that a person has to go through to develop into a certain extent to be determined by those things that he responds to as well as those those things he doesn't respond and consequently a real understanding of a person's adjustment has got to be a recognition of the fact that the individual may be dominant in one direction or in certain cases may actually be insulated or unaware of certain things that are going on and in the process of learning, process of training, process of adjustment, an individual has to make adaptations in this direction.
Now obviously the first and probably the most fundamental are in relationship to this is the first variable of the 3 variables that make up the PAS of the variable I call the Internalizer or Externalizer dimension or I refer to as "I" and "E".
Now I have to talk a minute by I mean or think I mean by the Initial Response State of I or E. Again, I have to put a caveat in connection with this for purposes of definition. I'm going to have to talk about their dichotomies as though there is a clear and clean I and as though there is a clear and clean E.
But there are, it is much more like a continuum which means in relationship of taking human beings as a whole they're going to vary all the way up and down the line and that is sometimes it is difficult to really differentiate clearly absolutely what a person is. How can I define it? I've got to define it as much more discreet and much more definable, perhaps than it is, so I will continue this talk about I and E as though they are a dichotomy, but I want you to remember that I really believe that the fit very much of a continuum in any certain kind of form, that is an individual is not either I or E.
Every individual is both I or E, but more likely to be more dominant I or more dominant E and this is the basis of which many of the determinations of the description system are derived etc.
OK, what is the meaning in relationship to this; when we are talking about perceptual organization or initial responses? It is my contention that the person who is dominant I (I'll start out in relationship to this). The person who is a dominant I - call him an internalizer because his general awareness or initial awareness is more likely to be an awareness that is internal - by internal that is completely this ??(definable - kind of thing which represents the internal environment of the individual Now moving ahead a little but let me try to explain for example what could be an extreme in connection with the use of terms in trying to describe an extreme in connection with an extreme I orientation is going to have elements of what the psychologists and psychiatrists call or refer to as autism. Autism really means the individual is so completely (consously?) aware of those things that going on within himself that he has lost almost all awareness of anything that is going on outside of him. Now if you think of autism in its extreme - that is, an individual who is so much internalized that he is incapable of responding to the externalized environment that is going around and the things going on around him, you have the extreme I.
Now let me try to build this up a little bit more in relationship to the I in terms of the I orientation that moves in the direction of autism and moves in the direction the basis of which an individual is primarily and more completely responsive to those things that going on inside of himself - less responsive to things that going on outside is not making much of an adaptation to things that going on the outside a fundamental liability of the particular kind of adjustment is that the extreme I individual because he cannot respond is going to be very dependent if you will upon some kind of external force, some some kind of external factor to provide him support, security, if you will, in the worked in which he lives that is the general orientation that the individual has in the beginning is the sense that because he does nothing for himself, if you follow what I mean or put another way, he does only things for himself, there is a necessity if he makes adjustment so adapts to the world in connection with this that he must be taken care of in order to survive.
Therefore an internalizer baby if I can start back into a frame of reference in particular to this, the internalizer baby is likely to be the one who initially requires a great deal of support, a great deal in the word I like to use in connection with this because it seems to delineate the concept that I think is important in terms of this requires a great deal of succor is therefore a fundamental characteristic of the Internalized adjustment - the individual tends be succor dependent.
Now what is the psychological meaning in a sense in terms of being succor dependent? The unique relationship into this is the individual expects, if that is the word to use, I don't know any other word to use in terms of this, the individual expects to be taken care of to a certain extent that being taken care of is a one-way street. I'm talking about this because one of the words that I'll use to go along in relationship to this is involvement. Now involvement indicates an awareness responsiveness, a reciprocation, an acting out so in one sense the Internalized child tends to be one way of describing it. A non-involving child is a non-involving child because the action that is taken towards that child is action taken primarily by the people on the outside rather than as the basis of the child taking any kind of particular acting or action in demanding any kind of involvement in the primitive state we're going to call emotional. Now the problem in connection with this is that if you move in a primary succor dependent direction in ??? childhood trauma that is likely to occur to be an internalized child is that in many instances he will be unexpectedly not taken care of as far as where a need is a particular concern and has no beginning way to demand the needs that it wants.
That leads to the second as well as the succor dependency types of things to an initial anxiety that occurs in the internalized child. The Internalized infant is going to be some primitive lack of security, a sense in terms of that, a period of time which he gets hungry - let's put it in primitive terms in connection with this - the child is going to have anxiety over the fact that he is not being fed but is not going be overtly demonstrative about the fact that he needs to be fed and therefore there will be an Internalized lack of security that will take place in that particular kind of a child which leads to the next thing in terms of this in terms of because of this involvement that I am talking about.
The overt (??) in general terms, the overt behavior manifestations of the I adjustment in an individual, in an infant is essentially going to be passivity.
Again I have to be very careful to say that I'm not saying the the I child is a passive child. I'm saying he is behaviorally passive and in many instances he is behaviorally passive because he is so active internally. Now the thing in relation to this is that is the individual is so aware, is do responsive to the things going on in a crude way trying to explain it, of the things that going on his head, he can be actively engaged in that type of thing - causing him to be passive in his failure to respond to the things that are going on on the outside. Now actually then one of the major things or a major liability, therein lies the adjustment the one sense the I adjustment will carry with with it certain rewarding things to a parent in the sense that the child will show very few demands anywhere along the line, but it won't be very long until the failure of that child to show any particular kind of demand () going to represent something of the sense of anxiety, fear on the part of the person who is responsible for the resulting maturation of the child.
Therefore an initial strong pressure is going to be placed upon the internalized child in that he is have to be more responsive, he is going to have to be more expressive; he is going to have to have to move in the direction to show he is aware because the older the Internalized infant becomes, the more aware the surrogate figures in that child's environment are of the child is not being aware.
Therefore, the primary pressure placed upon the Internalized passive infant is to move in the direction on the basis of which it will be more expressive. Now again to be moved on and a jump away in terms of this particular concept or this particular type of adjustment because it means to use the term in trying to describe this in the sense that the internalized individual has to learn to show feelings. Now remember I said he has to learn to show feelings. How again there is a great deal of problem when I try to describe the internalized internalizer. It sounds like I'm saying Internalizers don't have feelings. I'm not saying that at all. They are likely to have very strange feelings - are likely to be manifested in the direction of passivity in which their behavior is a primary characteristic of a strong feeling state.
Therefore the adjustment of the internalized individual that is in order to adapt to the world in which he lives in is to move into a direction on the basis of which he must learn to show overtly kind of feeling.
Now a fundamental bedrock idea in connection with it is the sense that an internalizer matures - and if he matures in an y particular kind of adequate way, that maturation means that as he is more adapted, the more people that he is of being able to manage his anxiety to show feelings.
Now this then means that in a sense an adult adjusted internalizer is likely to be an extremely active, aware aggressive individual because he has spent a lifetime, if you will, in terms of moving in that particular direction.
Now a aspect of this same thing is the fact that because the individual is a dominant interpretation or a dominant in connection with this an internalized individual also has the capacity to mask his adult life true feelings by the manifestation of (??appropurar) in that direction. Do you follow what I mean in relationship to his because in terms of this because an internalizer individual has to learn to show feelings - if he has control of his ability to show feelings as an adult in many instances he will be able to be less likely to allow kind of an intense feeling to interfere with his effectiveness - causing in relation to this or resulting in perhaps that's maybe a better way to be used, resulting in the fact of bing an adult I has a considerable amount of capacity to have a high degree of depression feeling - but of effectiveness over expression wise.
He is able to maintain himself in a situation in a way in which many people will not redirect & recognize he is as depressed as he is because he can manifest and show appropriate feelings (more about this later). On the other hand as an adult I if he moves into the direction on the basis of which his feelings begin to be so compelling and so intense and so over riding that they take over, the psychological adjustment, the overt manifestation of the intense feeling state that the individual is likely to go through is going be an adult apathy.
Now apathy is as far as I am concerned is the depression of the , if you follow what I mean. Apathy occurred in an I individual only in the period of time when he no longer, because his feelings are intense and so controlling he is not longer able to move in the direction of being able to be particularly expressive and so consequently a psychotic or pathological state in the Internalized individual is likely to be moving in the direction in which the person becomes less and less responsive because he has lost the capacity to be be able control the feelings.
All right now let me skip all the way over the ____ again and talk about the individual ____ of the Externalizer in relationship to this. The externalizer mainly in terms of this responsiveness, his responsiveness is reactivity. It is based upon the fact that he is very aware of, is very responsive to the varying things are going on out here - knowledge of people, things relationships, life, any of the overt externalized things in terms of this area of initial response state of the E individual is likely to manifest itself by a very chaotic primitive and this is something that is very easy to describe because we see it. It is very difficult to describe in fact is impossible to describe the primitive internalized activity of the I individual because it so individualized and so masked in terms of the behavior of the individual so then only then we can describe the lack of his reactivity. We know nothing about the chaotic ideational activity is the psychological activity.
Primitive behavioral activity is relatively easy to describe in the E individual. The primary problem the E individual has is in the extreme relationship to this he tends to be very reactive, very responsive and tends to be very over reactive and over responsive. Consequently his behavioral manifestations rather than being in the way I talked about the I individual - E individual - he activity is manifested every but his behavior to be constantly trying to react to the things going on around him in a primitive reactive, but of (caing?) in relationship to that a tendency towards involvement ..... 21:29 minutes