PAS Seminar Session 10 - Cases Part 4 Case: 17(E-cc R+c+u+ Au+u. Note: A part of a session is missing at the beginning - there arefinal comments on a prior case and the discussion of that case is missing.

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Note: With NL 2001:
13(Icu F+oc+ U-co) H T-cu
NL = 13

By old charts: 13(Icu Foc+ U-co) H

Break
Another case:
15(Iu+u F-u+c U++co) L+
NL32B 13(I+uc Rc+u U+cu) L+

With NL32b more intellectual discipline. But R/F really different.
NL29 understandable for research.

Old NLs have no reason to keep unless for research consistency.
NL80G 7 years old.

Conclusion: no reason to use NL32B.
Middle areas 80 G best (note this is like NL2001)

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29 year old male
College student after 10 years out of school
very good HS student. Went to State University - majored in social life.
Flunked out in 2 1/2 years.
Salesman on the road - did many things
At age 28, decided to he was not stupid

I 16
C 9
D 7+6 12 = 11 cause high A
A 14
S 17
PA 15
PC 18
BD 17
OA 14
DSY 10
CN 10
TE 11

80G: NL 17 (was hard to flunk out of college)
17(E-cc R+c+u+ Au+u) L+

Note: With NL2001 using WBG scoring on D(12):
Ecc Rc+u+ Au-o l+ Gc+u

Very bright ERA
Intellectually disciplined - every harder to flunk out of college
Socially Au+u - 
Pay attention to L+

Primitive
E-R+A

Basic: i*f*+a+

Surface: i\ f\+ a

Maybe a glimmer of how he flunked out with really low C - no practical
knowledge.

Functions as an IFA out of ERA

Probably some kind of unusual circumstances to get low C and Auu

Salesman learned methods (R+c+), could remember (i) and adapt (f*+)

If an Icc would be idealistic - explore outside world in terms of inner
  ideational notion. Lots of ministers. Many lawyers.
  Interactive more as ideal than liking people. That would be a brake on
  exploitive Auu.

Ecc - people who I need emotionally I take care of - very responsible to
 people who are meaningful to them. As Auu might be exploitive of
 people he does not care about.

R+c+ not allowed to be narrow, focused, perseverating.
   Surface Rcu+ - learned to be socially effective to "earn his beans"
     and did not have to learn to be practical.

Salesman: Sold art (traveling with stock in truck)
   Au+u - without lying could let the rubes have some fun thinking they
      are getting something valuable.

Next: Computer school and computer programming - turned him on.
   R+c+u+ love complexity. 
   May make more complicated than it has to be.

As R+ can spend a lot of time on problems. 
Programmer for 3 years.
Missed home. Middle of 3 boys. Proud Scot family. 
  5'1" and active but smallest.

  Worked at bartender near his family.
Then shaved mustache, lost weight, looked years younger and went back to school.

Back to school to prove no stupid.
year 1: Hard courses straight A
year 2: worked 3 jobs. Had wreck that wiped out money. Au+ don't put away
for a "rainy day" because know can always make money
Took a complicated schedule.

Grad school: deciding what to do.
Basic/surface IFA oriented towards being consensus maker.
Biggest problem is that surface f+ - push to do things for people
  Auu problem depend on others
  Got bogged down with doing things for others 
Did directed studies with Bob. Then did another semester - Bob
  interpreted as intellectual desire but turned it was because he
  thought Bob wanted him to.
  When this came to light - it worked out.
  
Other side of coin of IFU 31 year old that don't know what they want to do
Mother social butterfly
Brothers bigger and good athletes.

Psych honorary fraternity did new prize - Faculty picked him.
Surprised parents and did wonders for him.
"Took 10 years to grow up"
Willy nilly bringing up - someone else always did practical decisions for him